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    Whats happened to the inquiry into cop who lied to Court?

    A criminal investigation was begun in June 2011 into an undercover police officer's confession that he lied in court and wrongfully sent at least 150 people to prison.Patrick O'Brien wrote to Chief Justice Dame Sian Elias and former Police Commissioner Howard Broad admitting to perjury, saying he was racked with guilt after carrying a "dreadful secret" for more than 30 years.
    He was an undercover agent in drugs operations in the 1970s, immersed in the criminal underworld and the star Crown witness in the resulting court trials.

    But Mr O'Brien says he lied on oath every time he testified, and sent a confession letter in November 2007.The police hired Wellington lawyer Bruce Squire, QC, to investigate.
    He interviewed Mr O'Brien in July 2009, and reviewed court files dating back to 1974. Mr Squire finished his inquiry and sent his report to the police, but would not comment on his conclusions.
    He said the report was sent to police more than a year ago.His terms of reference were to confirm the truth of Mr O'Brien's allegations and determine whether police should investigate.
    Now, the file has been handed to Detective Inspector Bruce Scott, head of the Waitemata district CIB, to look further into the perjury claims.

    Mr Scott emailed Mr O'Brien last week requesting a meeting."As a result of Mr Bruce Squire's report, the former Deputy Commissioner directed that I make enquiries into the matters raised by you and consider any criminal liability," Mr Scott wrote."I have read the report produced by Mr Squire and also read the interview conducted with you. I have further looked at the evidence that you gave in Court from the transcripts that were available to Mr Squire."I am wanting to know if there is any other information that you have that may assist me in determining any criminal liability, or are there other persons that you consider need to be spoken to that could assist an enquiry relating to these matters?"

    Mr O'Brien said he would co-operate fully with the inquiry and plead guilty to any charges.
    In his confession, he said he could not guess the number of people who were convicted and imprisoned "because of my lies" as he stopped counting arrests at 150, halfway through his three-year undercover stint."In every case I lied to the courts and I lied to the juries to obtain convictions against my targets."Telling lies was easy - 'policemen don't tell lies' - and my targets never stood a chance."

    Mr O'Brien said he was often high on drugs, including cannabis, cocaine, heroin and LSD, during undercover operations. But he denied this when questioned at trials.He now considers he was a drug addict at that time in his life. In some cases, Mr O'Brien said he directly lied and said people sold him drugs - when they did not. Tampering with evidence was also common, he said. Often the exhibit before the court was not the drugs he bought from the target.

    The shame and stress of the work broke Mr O'Brien. He resigned from the police and fled New Zealand, "haunted, traumatised and scared"."My life since has been a tragic waste; running, always running, but never able to lose the demons that rush around in my head."

    Mr O'Brien was honoured for his undercover work by former Governor-General Sir David Beattie, who as a judge presided over a series of drug trials in the High Court at Hamilton in 1974.
    Sir David wrote a glowing commendation of the young constable to Police Commissioner Ken Burnside, describing him as a credible witness. But Mr O'Brien confessed to Dame Sian: "In every case and on every charge, I lied to Sir David and I lied to his juries."

    What he did

    Patrick John O'Brien was an undercover police officer between 1974 and 1977. He says he committed perjury by telling lies while giving evidence at trial, and that he:
    * Was often high on drugs while undercover, but denied ever using drugs when giving evidence at trials.
    * Asked a suspected burglar to help break into a pharmacy in Hamilton but told a jury the man invited him, and he denied "entrapment".
    * Told a jury that an accused drug dealer sold "buddha sticks" to him. The drugs were actually sold to someone else.
    * Tampered with evidence by skimming drugs from bags for his own use.

    Editors opinion: New Zealand should consider adopting the South African model of a "Truth Commission" to encourage people with Mr O'Briens integrity & courage to come forward and acknowlege crimes commited on behalf of the Crown.


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    Good to see some progress Pat, we await the Q & A from Mr Scott.

    From: Bruce Scott
    To: O’Brien
    Sent: Friday, 13 July 2012
    Subject: allegations of perjury

    Kia ora Pat

    The enquiry is now at a stage where I probably need to talk to you. Enquiries have been made with people you interacted with in Hamilton who live in New Zealand and Australia.

    Can you please let me know your availability (after next week) and where would suit you in NZ to meet

    Thanks

    Bruce Scott
    Detective Inspector
    Manager – Criminal Investigations
    Waitematä
    “The citizen's job is to be rude - to pierce the comfort of professional intercourse by boorish expressions of doubt”
    -John Ralston Saul-

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    Patrick, I see you got Inspector Bruce Scott ...... thats interesting. I would have thought he would be tied up Investigating/covering up, the masses of Corruption and Perverting of Justice that is currently happening right under his nose and in his district. I know that he was behind the scenes in some of my matters and is aware of the situation and note he seems happy to let it continue so im shocked is bothering to talk to you :-) must be all the attention the Police are getting :-)........

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    Commitment-success is largely a matter of hanging on after others have let go- Hang on Patrick! you're getting there, albeit slowly...
    "Acting is all about honesty...if you can fake that, you've got it made" - George Burns

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
    I must wonder why it has taken such long time to discover the deception.
    Maybe, this is just a tip of the iceberg of the New Zealand justice system that has been shielded from the public.
    To fix it or change the culture of the deception in the justice system can be very difficult.
    Who is at fault on this?
    Who should be held accountable for the injustice that has been done in the public sector?
    How to prevent this type of things from happening?
    All available evidence suggests it is the tip of the iceberg as we now see with the ongoing ACC scandal, there is a culture of deception covering up layers of dishonesty & incompetence. The Bazely report on the NZ Police said pretty much the same thing and the growing sense that we are not being served by numerous public sector entities is now being widely reported in mainstream media.

    I suggest the fault lies in the fusion rather than separation of powers that is supposed to prevent abuse. Politicians appoint old mates to be judges who were formerly lawyers , mollycoddled by a cuddly soft law society not interested in the integrity of its members. This culture of protectionism also pervades the statutory bodies established to ensure professional standards are maintained within the NZ Police, Medical Council & Judiciary. I believe the way forward involves greater transparency and accountability from our judges, coupled with a return o the Privy Council as our final Court of Appeal.

    The Supreme Court Building could then be included in the asset sales, with proceeds to properly compensate vicitims of New Zealand injustice.
    Last edited by fakeperson; 08-09-2012 at 12:26 AM.
    "Acting is all about honesty...if you can fake that, you've got it made" - George Burns

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    Imagine how Scott Watson is feeling right now after reading this. Police tell lies, judges overlook things, direct that information is srpressed etc. phew what is next? Family court judges making directions without evidence having been put before the court perhaps? No had that already. Gender basis in the Family Court then? No got that too. Alright fathers fed up trying to have consistent meaningful access with their children? No had that for years. Ok police, judges , doctors and lawyers accountable to the public not their mates? Now that's a new one - don't have that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shannon View Post
    Patrick, I see you got Inspector Bruce Scott ...... thats interesting. I would have thought he would be tied up Investigating/covering up, the masses of Corruption and Perverting of Justice that is currently happening right under his nose and in his district. I know that he was behind the scenes in some of my matters and is aware of the situation and note he seems happy to let it continue so im shocked is bothering to talk to you :-) must be all the attention the Police are getting :-)........
    We don't believe that this assessment by the police will reveal any wrong doing. This Policeman Bruce will have been appointed as he is likely to be the best Policeman to augment any covering up. Patrick has not been charged because of the potential for this to go to court and the fall out resulting from that.

    All that is likley to happen is that nothing will happen and dissolutioned new zealanders will continue to leave.

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    What now Patrick?

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